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Interview #1 – Google

Posted in Job Search by syracutie on January 22, 2010

November, 2007

Position: Associate Product Marketing Manager

Location: Mountain View, California (SWEET!!)

*First published on The Business Insider:

http://www.businessinsider.com/my-nightmare-interviews-with-google-2009-11

Google came to Syracuse’s campus to recruit new graduates when I was a senior.  I attended the information session and learned which jobs I could qualify for.  I created a fancy cover letter and resume, crossed my fingers and e-mailed them my documents.  One week later I had an email in my inbox from Google.

Google wanted to interview me!  Forbes’ #1 company to work for was interested in speaking with me about an Associate Product Marketing Manager position in Mountain View, California.  I called everyone I could think of, ecstatic and day-dreaming that my job hunt might end quickly and painlessly with me surfing during lunch breaks at the Googleplex.

Everyone says your GPA doesn’t matter when you’re finding a job—those people obviously never applied to Google.  My 3.6 suddenly seemed inferior.  Google also wanted to know if I had received any job offers.  They wanted to know who was recruiting me and how far along I was in my job search.  Talk about salt on an open wound to a college senior.  Sad and dejected, I ticked off the “No” [no one wants me] and “Yes” [I’m still unemployed] boxes.  I should have realized then that this was shaping up to be a grueling interview process, but I was too excited to pay much notice.

To prepare for my two back-to-back conference calls, I googled Google and learned their history, products, current news, founders, locations, business models, competitors, AdWords, investors and mottos.  My heart had never been in anything more and I was prepared for any curve ball they could throw.  I practiced interviewing with friends and felt confident when my cell rang at 4:00pm sharp.

A young man was on the other line sounding just as nervous as I felt.  The first five minutes of the allotted 30 were small talk.  We went over my resume, previous internships and my career goals.  My interviewer, Oliver, nervously cleared his throat between awkward silences during which he recorded my responses.  I was on top of my game.

About ten minutes in, Oliver turned the tables.  “I’m going to ask you a few questions that may sound strange,” he premised.  I paused.  Is there really any good response to a comment like that?  He seemed to read my mind because he elaborated: “These questions are meant to test your analytical thinking.”  Oh no.  He was about to ask me the famous, ridiculously impossible Google questions I had been reading about online.

If you’ve never interviewed with the Internet giant, you may have never heard the types of questions they ask their interviewees.  The searches I had done warned me that Google might inquire how much I’d pay someone to wash all of the windows in Seattle or what I’d do if I was shrunk to the size of a nickel and placed in a blender with churning blades.

“I want you to estimate,” Oliver began, “how much money you think Google makes daily from Gmail ads.”  Oh. My. GOSH.  Was he serious?  The answer depended on so many different factors, none of which I had any clue how to guesstimate.

“Um, you mean a hard number? Maybe…$70,000?”  Oliver’s hearty laugh told me my response was foolish.  “Wait, can you just totally ignore that response?  Scratch it out of your notes and pretend I never said that?”

“Don’t worry,” he mused, “I already did.  You don’t have to give me an exact number, just tell me how you would figure out the answer.”

“Ok,” I began and I regurgitated everything I had learned about AdWords.  “Google places four ads per e-mail opened in Gmail.  Advertisers get to pick their click-through rates, which can be as little as $0.05, and they can set a maximum daily charge, which can be $5.  The amount of money Google would make in a day would depend on the number of Gmail users, the number of e-mails those users receive and open per day, the number of advertisements they click on, and the rates the advertisers are charged.”

This answer wasn’t good enough.  Now I was asked for an exact amount of revenue.  “Say each G-mail user opens seven new e-mails a day.  They would see 28 ads.  If they click on ¼ of those ads, then only seven ads are clicked.  If all advertisers are charged $0.05 per clicked ad, then the amount of revenue would be whatever $0.05 x 7 ads x the number of G-mail users is.  Does that make any sense at all?”

“Kind of.”  Oliver sounded confused.  “You lost me at the ‘only clicking on ¼ of the ads’ comment.  Let’s move on.”

The interview ended shortly afterward.  Oliver politely indicated that HR would contact me again in a few weeks and he wished me good luck.  My confidence was slightly bruised but I felt that, overall, I handled the interview well enough.  I was left with 15 minutes to prepare for my next phone call, all of which I used to regain composure and review what I could have done better.

I thought Oliver was intimidating; the woman I spoke with next put him to shame.  I gathered from Anna’s cold greeting that she did not have much time for me.  We got right down to business.  “Name a piece of technology you’ve read about recently.”

“Ok, today I was reading about Nike and Apple working together to make a shoe with a chip in it that helps you run in time with your music.”

“Now tell me your own creative execution for an ad for that product.”

My mind swirled as I pulled some crazy concoction out of my ass.  “Well, Nike is known for having inspirational ads with little copy.  I guess I would have a person running in Nike shoes, listening to their I-Pod, looking exhausted.  The music would then pick up and each stride would coincide with the beat.  The runner would get a second wind, reach their goal, and the “Just Do It” line would appear on the screen above an I-pod with a Nike swoosh background.”

She laughed a little before continuing which I took as an encouraging sign.  “Now I’m going to ask you math problems.” Math?!  I hadn’t taken a math course since freshman year of college.  I was in trouble.

“Say an advertiser makes $0.10 every time someone clicks on their ad.  Only 20% of people who visit the site click on their ad.  How many people need to visit the site for the advertiser to make $20?”  I froze.  The problem sounded easy but I didn’t want to cause an awkward silence trying to solve it.

“Um…well, ok.  So, 20 out of 100 people click on the ad.  Every ten clicks make one dollar…and you need 20 of them…”  That’s as far as I got before I resorted to guessing answers, none of which were right.  I was panicking and I couldn’t do a thing about it.  My nerves were taking over.  Anna could sense this and began to give me hints.  None of them helped my frazzled brain.

After five painful minutes the annoyed interviewer gave me the answer.  “100 people make two dollars, and two times ten is twenty. The answer is 100 people times 10 which is 1,000 people.”  She made it sound so easy; I felt like a moron.  As if she enjoyed my misery, she immediately fired off another math problem.

“Estimate the number of students who are college seniors, attend four-year schools, and graduate with a job in the United States every year.”  This time I remained poised.

“There are about 300 million people in the nation” I began.  “Let’s say 10 million of those are college students at four year schools.  Only ¼ of those 10 million are seniors, so that would be roughly 2-3 million.  If half of those students graduate with jobs, you’re looking at about 1.5 million kids.”

“Would you say that number seems high, low, or just about right?”

“I would say it sounds low, but maybe that’s because I’m going through the job-search process and I’m wishing the number was higher.”

I didn’t even get a sympathetic laugh.  “That’s all.  Good luck with your job search.”  The phone clicked– I was stunned.  The abrupt sign-off was a clear indication that I wouldn’t be considered for round 2.  Interviewing can be demoralizing, and that’s just how I felt as I sat with my cell in my hand, vowing to switch to Yahoo for life.

Follow Up:  Turns out, my Google interviewer Oliver didn’t know the answers to his questions either! I met him one year later in New York City for a Mixx conference, here’s what happened:

http://www.businessinsider.com/business-news/nov-13-alyson-2009-11

Remember how I said I created a fancy cover letter and resume? I wasn’t kidding.  Here’s the application that got me the two phone interviews (and Oliver remembered me by it at the conference one year later):

December, 2007

Posted in Job Search by syracutie on January 5, 2010

I’ve just pulled a week of all-nighters for finals.  My boyfriend and I have been fighting non-stop because, after three years, we still don’t know where our relationship is going.  I deserve a stress-free winter vacation. But no one ever tells you that winter break your senior year of college isn’t relaxing.

Every college student homecoming follows a ritual.  Parents practically pant with excitement as their babies’ cars pull into the drive.  They squeeze you, comment on your fluctuating weight and finally let you sit down.  But when you’re a senior, this ritual has one very big, stressful distinction.  No sooner do you sit down when they pry: “Sweetie, what are you going to do when you graduate?”

Were parents not seniors in college once too?  Do they not remember the instant rise in blood pressure or awkward, uncomfortable feeling that stirs in a 21-year-old’s chest when they are asked that question?   My name is Alyson.  I’m a college senior at Syracuse University and I have absolutely no idea what I want to do with my life.  I don’t know what I want to do four months from now when I graduate.  Hell, I don’t even know what I’m going to do tomorrow.

Actually, my problem is not that I lack ideas and future goals–it’s that I have too many of them.  I’ve thought of every graduation scenario.  Two months ago I wanted to buy a one-way ticket to Los Angeles, try out for High School Musical 3 and forever steal Zach Efron from Vanessa Hudgens.  My next idea was to be a summer camp counselor or rock climbing instructor.  And, of course, reality is always gnawing at that back of my mind.  I could move to New York City, begin interviewing and embrace the next 40 years of my life.  My parents approve of the latter but I think I want to travel.  Right now it’s a toss up.

If you talk to working-world people about this dilemma, they all say the same thing: “you’ll figure it out; everything always works out the way it should.”  The stories you are told are all about people who have already had it work out.  My story is happening right now.  It’s crunch time for me.  I’ve got one semester left.  I’ve got to find a job and be happy, and I’ve got to enjoy my last four months of financial freedom before the man is officially sticking it to me.

There is nothing special about me; I’m a typical college senior. I’m from Arlington, Virginia and I’m a dual advertising/ psychology major.  I play soccer, basketball, piano, the Wii and I’m in a sorority.  The job frontier isn’t shaping up badly but I still have a long way to go. Here’s what I’ve got going for me:

1. I’ve had four internships, three of which were with big name companies.

2. I have my resume updated

3. I’ve been interviewing…a little.

4. I’m a networking pro.

5. I’m the most motivated person you’ll ever meet.

6.  The communications school I’m in has a good reputation.

7. No one else knows what the hell they want to do either.

I’ve had internships at small companies, big companies, magazine companies and television companies.  Sophomore year I interned with a small Syracuse business and was a campus representative for CBS College Sports Network.  I spent a semester abroad in Sydney, Australia where I not only kicked it with Isaac from The Real World, but I also landed an account management internship at a big ad agency, Leo Burnett.  This past summer I interned at Conde Nast Publications, the magazine giant that owns titles such as Glamour, Vogue and GQ.

I got each of those internships by networking, and that’s the best advice I can give.  Be assertive, be different, and network.  Conde Nast only accepted 3% of applicants into their internship program.  So how the heck did I land one of the coveted spots? Whelp, no clue really , but I have a few guesses:  I interviewed the Editor-in-Chief of Teen Vogue, Amy Astley, for a magazine paper I wrote sophomore year.  Since then, I’ve kept in contact via e-mail.  But she did not get me the internship interview.

Unless you know someone at Conde Nast, it’s hard to get a foot in the door.  Applying with 3,000 other applicants seems unfair, but it’s what I did.  I just made my application look interesting.  Using Adobe InDesign, I made my application look like a magazine spread.  I photoshopped a cover of Glamour and inserted my own headlines and title page. I created a CV that looked like a letter from the editor.  I also stuck a letter from Amy Astley in the back of my application.  What could it hurt?  Two months later I received an e-mail from the company wanting me to interview for a summer position.

As I get ready to graduate and find a job, I am documenting my process so you can learn from my mistakes and use what works.  As my friends and classmates begin landing jobs, I’ll post their first job stories here too.  Since networking has worked  out nicely for me in the past, that’s how I’m going to try and tackle the job front.  Stay tuned…

As I get ready to graduate and find a job, I am documenting my process so you can learn from my mistakes and use what works.  As my friends and classmates begin landing jobs, I’ll post their first job stories here too.  Since networking has worked  out nicely for me in the past, that’s how I’m going to try and tackle the job front.  Stay tuned…
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